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mhamburg
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I Need Help

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Here is a link to an image of M27 shot two weeks ago. Please forgive the poor centering as I prioritized centering a guide star without rechecking the main image.

C11 HD Edge @f10
CGEM
Canon 6D; 10 x 180s @iso 1600 (only 10 subs before the mount hit the RA limit)
Captured in BYEOS; Guided in PHD2 with Taurus Tracker III OAG
10 lights; 11 darks; 16 flats
Stacked in DSS
I am stumbling through StarTools getting very noisy results with poor color values (among other things)

Will someone please take a look at the .fts file linked here? Thank you!

Very frustrated, Michael :cry:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/w4uh08agb7n9d ... 3.fts?dl=0
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Here's what I came up with using a very basic processing.
StarTools 1.4.297
Sat Jul 18 14:30:46 2015
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File loaded [C:\Users\Che\Desktop\Autosave003.fts].
---
--- Bin
Parameter [Scale] set to [(scale/noise reduction 35.38%)/(798.89%)/(+3.00 bits)]
--- Crop
Parameter [X1] set to [5 pixels]
Parameter [Y1] set to [5 pixels]
Parameter [X2] set to [1939 pixels (-5)]
Parameter [Y2] set to [1293 pixels (-5)]
--- Wipe
Parameter [Mode] set to [Correct Color & Brightness]
Parameter [UNKNOWN] set to [Yes]
Parameter [Precision] set to [256 x 256 pixels]
Parameter [Dark Anomaly Filter] set to [1 pixels]
Parameter [Drop Off Point] set to [0 %]
Parameter [Corner Aggressiveness] set to [100 %]
Parameter [Aggressiveness] set to [75 %]
--- Develop
Parameter [White Calibration] set to [Use Stars]
Parameter [Gamma] set to [1.00]
Parameter [Skyglow] set to [0 %]
Parameter [Digital Development] set to [85.65 %]
Parameter [Blue Luminance Contrib.] set to [100 %]
Parameter [Green Luminance Contrib.] set to [100 %]
Parameter [Red Luminance Contrib.] set to [100 %]
Parameter [Dark Anomaly Headroom] set to [5 %]
Parameter [Dark Anomaly Filter] set to [Off]
--- Contrast
Parameter [Expose Dark Areas] set to [No]
Parameter [Compensate Gamma] set to [No]
Parameter [Precision] set to [256 x 256 pixels]
Parameter [Dark Anomaly Filter] set to [1 pixels]
Parameter [Aggressiveness] set to [75 %]
Parameter [Dark Anomaly Headroom] set to [15 %]
--- Wavelet Sharpen
Parameter [Intelligent Enhance] set to [Yes]
Parameter [Scale 1] set to [100 %]
Parameter [Scale 2] set to [100 %]
Parameter [Scale 3] set to [100 %]
Parameter [Scale 4] set to [100 %]
Parameter [Scale 5] set to [100 %]
Parameter [Mask Fuzz] set to [8.0 pixels]
Parameter [Amount] set to [100 %]
Parameter [Small Detail Bias] set to [75 %]
--- Color
Parameter [Cap Green] set to [No]
Parameter [Bias Slider Mode] set to [Sliders Reduce Color Bias]
Parameter [Style] set to [Scientific (Color Constancy)]
Parameter [LRGB Method Emulation] set to [Straight CIELab Luminance Retention]
Parameter [Dark Saturation] set to [2.00]
Parameter [Bright Saturation] set to [Full]
Parameter [Saturation Amount] set to [200 %]
Parameter [Blue Bias Reduce] set to [2.27]
Parameter [Green Bias Reduce] set to [1.00]
Parameter [Red Bias Reduce] set to [1.09]
Parameter [Mask Fuzz] set to [1.0 pixels]
--- Wavelet De-Noise
Parameter [Scale 1] set to [90 %]
Parameter [Scale 2] set to [90 %]
Parameter [Scale 3] set to [90 %]
Parameter [Scale 4] set to [90 %]
Parameter [Scale 5] set to [0 %]
Parameter [Mask Fuzz] set to [1.0 pixels]
Parameter [Scale Correlation] set to [3]
Parameter [Color Detail Loss] set to [12 %]
Parameter [Brightness Detail Loss] set to [12 %]
Parameter [Grain Size] set to [4.5 pixels]
Parameter [Read Noise Compensation] set to [Off]
Parameter [Smoothness] set to [75 %]
--- Magic
Parameter [Mode] set to [Tighten]
Parameter [Mask Grow] set to [1 pixels]
Parameter [Iterations] set to [1 pixels]
File saved [C:\Users\Che\Desktop\Autosave003-basic.jpg].
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mhamburg
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Re: I Need Help

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sized_M27_10 x 180s @1600 iso.jpg
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[img][img][/img][/img]Dear Cheman,
I cannot begin to thank you for the time and effort you put in. I will reprocess the original .fts file using your "formula" so I can get used to a workflow. Of course, details will change with different images. BTW, is there a way of downloading your result? Thanks once again.
Michael
ps. I just reprocessed the .fts file according to your workflow and behold a miracle! Thank you for the breakthrough I needed. Your workflow is excellent.
Michael :bow-yellow:
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Hi Michael
Glad it was helpful to you. This was a very basic workflow with default settings. As you get more familiar with StarTools, you will see that it is very powerful, and at the same time very friendly to use. This is just a starting point! With different images, you might find different modules like the Deconvolution, HDR, repair, Magic etc, can help the image a lot. There is a lot to learn to be able to use StarTools to its full potential. It is a program that you can grow into as you see what different settings can do. Lots of helpfull people here to answer questions and Ivo's support is beyond compare :thumbsup:
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Re: I Need Help

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I really needed a workable sequence rather than stumbling at random. Once again, you have my gratitude.
Michael :obscene-drinkingcheers:
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