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Horsehead and Flame

Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2024 7:56 pm
by Stefan B
With two clearish nights accompanied by fog etc I got the chance to image the Horsehead Nebula together with the Flame Nebula:

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See https://astrob.in/z507el/0/ for technical details. As with my M 33 image I used the Filter module to emphasize the hydrogen clouds behind the Horsehead. I would have loved to include some narrowband data to see if it adds something but I don't think that weather will cooperate.

Now it's time to clean the primary mirror and to collimate the scope afterwards. Haven't done that for more than a year and it looks accordingly.

Regards
Stefan

Re: Horsehead and Flame

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2025 1:59 pm
by Stefan B
With half a clear night I was able to add 4 hrs of duo NB data to the image and process it via NBAccent. It really paid off in my eyes. It is actually a completely different image...

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Well, Alnitak is still Alnitak but it could be worse.

Mirror cleaning and collimation worked as well I guess. I collimated with the laser collimator, checked with a tri bahtinov mask and surprisingly it was fine. Hooray for the f5 newton! :lol: That would have probably turned out differently with a f4 device.

Regards
Stefan

Re: Horsehead and Flame

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2025 5:45 pm
by decay
Wow, that's a _huge_ improvement, Stefan! :bow-yellow: The flame is nicely coloured - I think I remember a thread where colour was off after using NBAccent. :think: Alnitak is well under control, but maybe a bit desaturated, as well as some of the other stars? Anyway, this draws the eye to the superb colours of the nebulae.

Collimation seems to be excellent - nice thin spikes, reaching far out into the scenery. Lately I also cleaned the mirrors of my scope, but I struggled a bit with collimation. Well - yes, as Jochen lately stated this is a "wobbly 8" Newtonian" and such problems may be by nature.

I hope there will be a few clear hours for me too. Now I have to collect NB data of the horse, of course! ;)

Best regards, Dietmar.

Re: Horsehead and Flame

Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2025 8:06 pm
by Stefan B
Thanks for your kind comments, Dietmar.
decay wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 5:45 pm The flame is nicely coloured - I think I remember a thread where colour was off after using NBAccent. :think:
Yes, I also remembered that one. Which was the reason I initially didn't want to "waste" precious clear sky time on the flame with duo NB. I finished the horse head with broadband only and went on to the Cone. But then I was reminded how much there was to gain when I saw this Ha only image acquired during a bright moon...https://www.astrobin.com/8jni76/

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Insane :shock: And then with one more night of clear sky to come I thought it might be worth a shot.
I don't know why it didn't came out purely red... It actually had this color straight out of the camera. I could see this already in the incoming individual subs in NINA. I always thought the flame would lose its unique color when filtered with duo NB. Maybe the band width of the l-eNhance is too big for this to happen and there's quite some continuum signal in there.
decay wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 5:45 pm Alnitak is well under control, but maybe a bit desaturated, as well as some of the other stars? Anyway, this draws the eye to the superb colours of the nebulae.
Well spotted. Normally my star fields are pretty colorful. But here I basically omitted almost every step which increased saturation. Also no Saturate preset in SuperStructure. It always looked like too much in this case. In color I used the Artistic preset which naturally decreases the bright Alnitak (but for quite some time now I almost always use this preset but stars get saturation later on...but not in this case). In Shrink I was quite extreme here. I liked the result with the Tighten preset but thought more might be better here...so after the first Shrink run I entered the module again but now I used Dim. That's certainly a matter of taste but I liked how it brought up the nebula. Since there's so much gas and dust I find the star field in this region looks pretty uniform anyway so I considered it to not be a big sacrifice here.

Maybe noteworthy: Since I used the 13 or 14 bit tranches during stretching to get Alnitak under control the rest of the image went pretty dark. So I pulled up gamma to 1.3 or so. It was also much brighter than the initial stretch by OptiDev. Usually my data cannot carry such a stretch and gets noisy and blotchy but here it looked fine. Problem was that then NBAccent didn't work since the broadband image was brighter than the duo NB and so almost nothing of the duo NB data contributed (everything was black in Stage 1 of NBAccent). So I had to get back to the initial stretch of broadband, avoid pushing gamma, go back to NBAccent and do it and then push up gamma. Never had to do that back and forth.
decay wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 5:45 pm Lately I also cleaned the mirrors of my scope, but I struggled a bit with collimation. Well - yes, as Jochen lately stated this is a "wobbly 8" Newtonian" and such problems may be by nature.
Newtonians, right :confusion-shrug:
decay wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 5:45 pm I hope there will be a few clear hours for me too. Now I have to collect NB data of the horse, of course! ;)
Good luck, certainly rewarding though it's not high up. For me no clear skies for the next week.

Regards
Stefan