Advice wanted on my ST attempt at M51
Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 5:45 am
I began my AP addiction a few weeks ago and am trying to settle on primary processing software. I'm on a trial of PhotoShop CC and PixInsight and I have purchased StarTools. Photoshop is well documented and there's no shortage of tutorials. I find PixInsight to be very complex and the developers seem to take pride in maximum complexity and minimal documentation.
I bought ST because the thought of not having to worry about histograms and curves is very appealing. I am struggling though. The attached photo is my best attempt with ST with my M51 data. It's not bad and I'd be happy with it if I hadn't done better with PixInsight. My PixInsight M51 image can be seen at http://www.astrobin.com/full/48539/?mod=none
I think it has more detail and the color is better than what I could accomplish in StarTools. I am posting the ST workflow below. After the de-noise I was flailing about trying to find a tool that would get me what I know is in the data.
I'd welcome any hints to get the most out of my data. If anyone wants to take a crack at it, the FITS file is at https://www.dropbox.com/s/xe8c70bk6xsc2 ... 0Stack.fit
M51 data details:
C8/AVX
Orion mini 50 guide scope w/ SSAG
Unmodded Canon 450D
37 120s subs calibrated, registered and stacked in DSS with darks only
ST Workflow
File loaded [C:\Users\Gary\Pictures\Astrophotography\M51\12 Jul 13\PI Cal Reg Stack.fit].
---
--- Crop
Parameter [X1] set to [47 pixels]
Parameter [Y1] set to [43 pixels]
Parameter [X2] set to [4240 pixels (-50)]
Parameter [Y2] set to [2814 pixels (-42)]
--- Develop
Parameter [White Calibration] set to [Use Stars]
Parameter [Gamma] set to [0.97]
Parameter [Skyglow] set to [0 %]
Parameter [Digital Development] set to [94.97 %]
Parameter [Blue Luminance Contrib.] set to [100 %]
Parameter [Green Luminance Contrib.] set to [100 %]
Parameter [Red Luminance Contrib.] set to [100 %]
Parameter [Dark Anomaly Headroom] set to [5 %]
Parameter [Dark Anomaly Filter] set to [2.0 pixels]
--- Wipe
Parameter [Mode] set to [Correct Color Only]
Parameter [Top End Treatment] set to [Wipe 2.0]
Parameter [Cap Green] set to [To Yellow]
Parameter [Output Gradient Only] set to [No]
Parameter [Precision] set to [256 x 256 pixels]
Parameter [Dark Anomaly Filter] set to [1 pixels]
Parameter [Drop Off Point] set to [100 %]
Parameter [Corner Aggressiveness] set to [100 %]
Parameter [Aggressiveness] set to [0 %]
Parameter [Dark Anomaly Headroom] set to [10 %]
--- Wipe
Parameter [Mode] set to [Correct Brightness Only]
Parameter [Top End Treatment] set to [Wipe 2.0]
Parameter [Cap Green] set to [No]
Parameter [Output Gradient Only] set to [No]
Parameter [Precision] set to [256 x 256 pixels]
Parameter [Dark Anomaly Filter] set to [1 pixels]
Parameter [Drop Off Point] set to [0 %]
Parameter [Corner Aggressiveness] set to [100 %]
Parameter [Aggressiveness] set to [75 %]
Parameter [Dark Anomaly Headroom] set to [10 %]
--- Wipe
Parameter [Mode] set to [Correct Color & Brightness]
Parameter [Top End Treatment] set to [Wipe 2.0]
Parameter [Cap Green] set to [No]
Parameter [Output Gradient Only] set to [No]
Parameter [Precision] set to [128 x 128 pixels]
Parameter [Dark Anomaly Filter] set to [1 pixels]
Parameter [Drop Off Point] set to [100 %]
Parameter [Corner Aggressiveness] set to [100 %]
Parameter [Aggressiveness] set to [75 %]
Parameter [Dark Anomaly Headroom] set to [10 %]
File saved [C:\Users\Gary\Pictures\Astrophotography\M51\12 Jul 13\PI Cal Reg Stack_ST Crop_Dev_3Wipe.tiff].
--- HDR
Parameter [UNKNOWN] set to [Low]
Parameter [Channels] set to [Brightness & Color]
Parameter [Algorithm] set to [Optimize Hard]
Parameter [Dark/Bright Response] set to [1.52]
Parameter [Detail Size Range] set to [18 pixels]
Parameter [Noise Suppression] set to [10 %]
File saved [C:\Users\Gary\Pictures\Astrophotography\M51\12 Jul 13\PI Cal Reg Stack_ST Crop_Dev_3Wipe_HDR.tiff].
--- Color
Parameter [Cap Green] set to [To Yellow]
Parameter [Bottom End Saturation] set to [1.00]
Parameter [Top End Saturation] set to [2.80]
Parameter [Saturation] set to [205 %]
Parameter [Blue Ratio] set to [1.00]
Parameter [Green Ratio] set to [1.09]
Parameter [Red Ratio] set to [1.02]
Parameter [Mask Fuzz] set to [1.0 pixels]
File saved [C:\Users\Gary\Pictures\Astrophotography\M51\12 Jul 13\PI Cal Reg Stack_ST Crop_Dev_3Wipe_HDR_Color.tiff].
--- Wavelet Sharpen
Parameter [Channels] set to [Brightness Only]
Parameter [Scale 1] set to [100 %]
Parameter [Scale 2] set to [100 %]
Parameter [Scale 3] set to [100 %]
Parameter [Scale 4] set to [100 %]
Parameter [Scale 5] set to [100 %]
Parameter [Mask Fuzz] set to [8.0 pixels]
Parameter [Brightness Mask Power] set to [0.00]
Parameter [Amount] set to [100 %]
Parameter [Small Detail Bias] set to [80 %]
File saved [C:\Users\Gary\Pictures\Astrophotography\M51\12 Jul 13\PI Cal Reg Stack_ST Crop_Dev_3Wipe_HDR_Color_Sharpen.tiff].
--- HDR
Parameter [UNKNOWN] set to [Medium]
Parameter [Channels] set to [Brightness & Color]
Parameter [Algorithm] set to [Reveal DSO Core]
Parameter [Dark/Bright Response] set to [1.00]
Parameter [Detail Size Range] set to [12 pixels]
Parameter [Noise Suppression] set to [Off]
--- Wavelet De-Noise
Parameter [Scale 1] set to [100 %]
Parameter [Scale 2] set to [75 %]
Parameter [Scale 3] set to [50 %]
Parameter [Scale 4] set to [25 %]
Parameter [Scale 5] set to [0 %]
Parameter [Mask Fuzz] set to [1.0 pixels]
Parameter [Brightness Mask Power] set to [0.00]
Parameter [Color Detail Loss] set to [50 %]
Parameter [Brightness Detail Loss] set to [25 %]
Parameter [Structural Emphasis] set to [0 pixels]
Parameter [Edge Repair Strength] set to [15 %]
Parameter [Noise Tracking Influence] set to [100 %]
Parameter [Intelligent Despeckle] set to [0 %]
--- Magic
Parameter [Mode] set to [Shrink]
Parameter [Mask Grow] set to [1 pixels]
Parameter [Iterations] set to [0 pixels]
--- Color
Parameter [Cap Green] set to [No]
Parameter [Bottom End Saturation] set to [Full]
Parameter [Top End Saturation] set to [Full]
Parameter [Saturation] set to [116 %]
Parameter [Blue Ratio] set to [1.00]
Parameter [Green Ratio] set to [1.01]
Parameter [Red Ratio] set to [1.01]
Parameter [Mask Fuzz] set to [1.0 pixels]
--- Life
Parameter [Detail Preservation] set to [Min Distance to 1/2 Unity]
Parameter [Compositing Algorithm] set to [Screen]
Parameter [Inherit Brightness, Color] set to [Off]
Parameter [Output Glow Only] set to [No]
Parameter [Airy Disk Sampling] set to [128 x 128 pixels]
Parameter [Airy Disk Radius] set to [8 pixels]
Parameter [Glow Threshold] set to [5 %]
Parameter [Detail Preservation Radius] set to [20.0 pixels]
Parameter [Saturation] set to [50 %]
Parameter [Strength] set to [100 %]
Parameter [Mask Fuzz] set to [1.0 pixels]
--- HDR
Parameter [UNKNOWN] set to [Medium]
Parameter [Channels] set to [Brightness & Color]
Parameter [Algorithm] set to [Reveal DSO Core]
Parameter [Dark/Bright Response] set to [Full]
Parameter [Detail Size Range] set to [64 pixels]
Parameter [Noise Suppression] set to [100 %]
--- Wavelet Sharpen
Parameter [Channels] set to [Brightness Only]
Parameter [Scale 1] set to [100 %]
Parameter [Scale 2] set to [100 %]
Parameter [Scale 3] set to [100 %]
Parameter [Scale 4] set to [100 %]
Parameter [Scale 5] set to [100 %]
Parameter [Mask Fuzz] set to [1.0 pixels]
Parameter [Brightness Mask Power] set to [0.00]
Parameter [Amount] set to [100 %]
Parameter [Small Detail Bias] set to [75 %]
--- Crop
Parameter [X1] set to [416 pixels]
Parameter [Y1] set to [100 pixels]
Parameter [X2] set to [4096 pixels (-97)]
Parameter [Y2] set to [2117 pixels (-654)]
I bought ST because the thought of not having to worry about histograms and curves is very appealing. I am struggling though. The attached photo is my best attempt with ST with my M51 data. It's not bad and I'd be happy with it if I hadn't done better with PixInsight. My PixInsight M51 image can be seen at http://www.astrobin.com/full/48539/?mod=none
I think it has more detail and the color is better than what I could accomplish in StarTools. I am posting the ST workflow below. After the de-noise I was flailing about trying to find a tool that would get me what I know is in the data.
I'd welcome any hints to get the most out of my data. If anyone wants to take a crack at it, the FITS file is at https://www.dropbox.com/s/xe8c70bk6xsc2 ... 0Stack.fit
M51 data details:
C8/AVX
Orion mini 50 guide scope w/ SSAG
Unmodded Canon 450D
37 120s subs calibrated, registered and stacked in DSS with darks only
ST Workflow
File loaded [C:\Users\Gary\Pictures\Astrophotography\M51\12 Jul 13\PI Cal Reg Stack.fit].
---
--- Crop
Parameter [X1] set to [47 pixels]
Parameter [Y1] set to [43 pixels]
Parameter [X2] set to [4240 pixels (-50)]
Parameter [Y2] set to [2814 pixels (-42)]
--- Develop
Parameter [White Calibration] set to [Use Stars]
Parameter [Gamma] set to [0.97]
Parameter [Skyglow] set to [0 %]
Parameter [Digital Development] set to [94.97 %]
Parameter [Blue Luminance Contrib.] set to [100 %]
Parameter [Green Luminance Contrib.] set to [100 %]
Parameter [Red Luminance Contrib.] set to [100 %]
Parameter [Dark Anomaly Headroom] set to [5 %]
Parameter [Dark Anomaly Filter] set to [2.0 pixels]
--- Wipe
Parameter [Mode] set to [Correct Color Only]
Parameter [Top End Treatment] set to [Wipe 2.0]
Parameter [Cap Green] set to [To Yellow]
Parameter [Output Gradient Only] set to [No]
Parameter [Precision] set to [256 x 256 pixels]
Parameter [Dark Anomaly Filter] set to [1 pixels]
Parameter [Drop Off Point] set to [100 %]
Parameter [Corner Aggressiveness] set to [100 %]
Parameter [Aggressiveness] set to [0 %]
Parameter [Dark Anomaly Headroom] set to [10 %]
--- Wipe
Parameter [Mode] set to [Correct Brightness Only]
Parameter [Top End Treatment] set to [Wipe 2.0]
Parameter [Cap Green] set to [No]
Parameter [Output Gradient Only] set to [No]
Parameter [Precision] set to [256 x 256 pixels]
Parameter [Dark Anomaly Filter] set to [1 pixels]
Parameter [Drop Off Point] set to [0 %]
Parameter [Corner Aggressiveness] set to [100 %]
Parameter [Aggressiveness] set to [75 %]
Parameter [Dark Anomaly Headroom] set to [10 %]
--- Wipe
Parameter [Mode] set to [Correct Color & Brightness]
Parameter [Top End Treatment] set to [Wipe 2.0]
Parameter [Cap Green] set to [No]
Parameter [Output Gradient Only] set to [No]
Parameter [Precision] set to [128 x 128 pixels]
Parameter [Dark Anomaly Filter] set to [1 pixels]
Parameter [Drop Off Point] set to [100 %]
Parameter [Corner Aggressiveness] set to [100 %]
Parameter [Aggressiveness] set to [75 %]
Parameter [Dark Anomaly Headroom] set to [10 %]
File saved [C:\Users\Gary\Pictures\Astrophotography\M51\12 Jul 13\PI Cal Reg Stack_ST Crop_Dev_3Wipe.tiff].
--- HDR
Parameter [UNKNOWN] set to [Low]
Parameter [Channels] set to [Brightness & Color]
Parameter [Algorithm] set to [Optimize Hard]
Parameter [Dark/Bright Response] set to [1.52]
Parameter [Detail Size Range] set to [18 pixels]
Parameter [Noise Suppression] set to [10 %]
File saved [C:\Users\Gary\Pictures\Astrophotography\M51\12 Jul 13\PI Cal Reg Stack_ST Crop_Dev_3Wipe_HDR.tiff].
--- Color
Parameter [Cap Green] set to [To Yellow]
Parameter [Bottom End Saturation] set to [1.00]
Parameter [Top End Saturation] set to [2.80]
Parameter [Saturation] set to [205 %]
Parameter [Blue Ratio] set to [1.00]
Parameter [Green Ratio] set to [1.09]
Parameter [Red Ratio] set to [1.02]
Parameter [Mask Fuzz] set to [1.0 pixels]
File saved [C:\Users\Gary\Pictures\Astrophotography\M51\12 Jul 13\PI Cal Reg Stack_ST Crop_Dev_3Wipe_HDR_Color.tiff].
--- Wavelet Sharpen
Parameter [Channels] set to [Brightness Only]
Parameter [Scale 1] set to [100 %]
Parameter [Scale 2] set to [100 %]
Parameter [Scale 3] set to [100 %]
Parameter [Scale 4] set to [100 %]
Parameter [Scale 5] set to [100 %]
Parameter [Mask Fuzz] set to [8.0 pixels]
Parameter [Brightness Mask Power] set to [0.00]
Parameter [Amount] set to [100 %]
Parameter [Small Detail Bias] set to [80 %]
File saved [C:\Users\Gary\Pictures\Astrophotography\M51\12 Jul 13\PI Cal Reg Stack_ST Crop_Dev_3Wipe_HDR_Color_Sharpen.tiff].
--- HDR
Parameter [UNKNOWN] set to [Medium]
Parameter [Channels] set to [Brightness & Color]
Parameter [Algorithm] set to [Reveal DSO Core]
Parameter [Dark/Bright Response] set to [1.00]
Parameter [Detail Size Range] set to [12 pixels]
Parameter [Noise Suppression] set to [Off]
--- Wavelet De-Noise
Parameter [Scale 1] set to [100 %]
Parameter [Scale 2] set to [75 %]
Parameter [Scale 3] set to [50 %]
Parameter [Scale 4] set to [25 %]
Parameter [Scale 5] set to [0 %]
Parameter [Mask Fuzz] set to [1.0 pixels]
Parameter [Brightness Mask Power] set to [0.00]
Parameter [Color Detail Loss] set to [50 %]
Parameter [Brightness Detail Loss] set to [25 %]
Parameter [Structural Emphasis] set to [0 pixels]
Parameter [Edge Repair Strength] set to [15 %]
Parameter [Noise Tracking Influence] set to [100 %]
Parameter [Intelligent Despeckle] set to [0 %]
--- Magic
Parameter [Mode] set to [Shrink]
Parameter [Mask Grow] set to [1 pixels]
Parameter [Iterations] set to [0 pixels]
--- Color
Parameter [Cap Green] set to [No]
Parameter [Bottom End Saturation] set to [Full]
Parameter [Top End Saturation] set to [Full]
Parameter [Saturation] set to [116 %]
Parameter [Blue Ratio] set to [1.00]
Parameter [Green Ratio] set to [1.01]
Parameter [Red Ratio] set to [1.01]
Parameter [Mask Fuzz] set to [1.0 pixels]
--- Life
Parameter [Detail Preservation] set to [Min Distance to 1/2 Unity]
Parameter [Compositing Algorithm] set to [Screen]
Parameter [Inherit Brightness, Color] set to [Off]
Parameter [Output Glow Only] set to [No]
Parameter [Airy Disk Sampling] set to [128 x 128 pixels]
Parameter [Airy Disk Radius] set to [8 pixels]
Parameter [Glow Threshold] set to [5 %]
Parameter [Detail Preservation Radius] set to [20.0 pixels]
Parameter [Saturation] set to [50 %]
Parameter [Strength] set to [100 %]
Parameter [Mask Fuzz] set to [1.0 pixels]
--- HDR
Parameter [UNKNOWN] set to [Medium]
Parameter [Channels] set to [Brightness & Color]
Parameter [Algorithm] set to [Reveal DSO Core]
Parameter [Dark/Bright Response] set to [Full]
Parameter [Detail Size Range] set to [64 pixels]
Parameter [Noise Suppression] set to [100 %]
--- Wavelet Sharpen
Parameter [Channels] set to [Brightness Only]
Parameter [Scale 1] set to [100 %]
Parameter [Scale 2] set to [100 %]
Parameter [Scale 3] set to [100 %]
Parameter [Scale 4] set to [100 %]
Parameter [Scale 5] set to [100 %]
Parameter [Mask Fuzz] set to [1.0 pixels]
Parameter [Brightness Mask Power] set to [0.00]
Parameter [Amount] set to [100 %]
Parameter [Small Detail Bias] set to [75 %]
--- Crop
Parameter [X1] set to [416 pixels]
Parameter [Y1] set to [100 pixels]
Parameter [X2] set to [4096 pixels (-97)]
Parameter [Y2] set to [2117 pixels (-654)]